>>>>>>> ShrinkDVD for ripping and Nero for burning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a person with a freeware site, and posting in a
>>>>>> freeware newsgroup, that is a poor answer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why?????? ShrinkDVD is FREE and you normally get a FREE Nero
>>>>> disc with your burner I got Nero6 with my burner
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Because you "got your burner" by buying it. Bambam's trying to
>>>> keep it on-topic. Sounds good to me.
>>>>
>>>> -Craig
>>>
>>>
>>> But you've got to buy a burner before you can use ANY freeware
>>> burning software!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You're assuming everyone gets nero w/their writers Maynard. Or s/w
>> that's adequate for that matter.
>>
>> -Craig
>
>
> Hi Craig, ...I usually reply to your posts as you are one of the VERY
> few who don't see the freeware issue as black and white, you
> recognise the grey areas and respond in a logical rather than
> blinkered manner.
I appreciate the compliment, Dave, but I'm afraid you're gonna be
disappointed...<grin> I'm not reactionary wrt freeware, rather wrt
on-topic vs off-. I really /do/ come here to read up on freeware. I
go elsewhere, for example, to read up on motorcycle maintenance (trust
me, we don't want to hear about Vauxhaul carburetion issues).
> But surely here, if software comes free with a burner, commercial or
> not, then it's still free?
The reason this matters is purely practical: The difference between
freeware and Nero is that *anyone* here can recreate a recommended
freeware software setup. Whereas, only those who received Nero as a
part of a purchase (or purchased it outright) may follow along.
In this instance: I do not own a copy of Nero. I do own a cd/dvd
writer. I follow threads w/titles like "dvd software" in a.c.f.
and...well, you know the rest. <grin> But really, I *can't* follow the
recommendation even though I'm in the /correct/ group.
Again, for me, this is not an issue of breaching Emily Post's etiquette
nor an issue of staying as "pure" as a vegan in a Costa Brava commune.
This is a real, rubber-hitting-the-road practicality. In this
particular instance, it affected me and I'm concerned that if I don't
speak up it will become the accepted norm.
> I'm not bothered by the issue of is it free or not as I feel we need
> the comparisons in the first place...
Comparisons are an intriguing idea that I'd like to explore. Maybe mark
them like we do for update announcements or just [OT]. That'd be very
interesting. (And this begs the question: Do you use Nero because it's
better than comparable freeware or because it didn't cost you?)
> and use an inferior program for the sake of 20 twenty quid!
[editor's note: Lemme guess, "20 quid" is a sight more than "two bits"
but substantially less than a "benjamin..."]
Thanks for the thoughtful exchange Dave, very worthwhile.