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Re: CHINA TIGHTENS WEB CONTROLS TO KNOCK OUT PROXIES, GOOGLE
de are we on same page? 06/29/2006 04:02
missionaries always shadowing the hindus. the missionaries are all over the
computer world, hardware, software, freeware or any ware, because they are
likely to find hindus there whom the missionaries badly want to convert. the
hindus have only one option to get away from missionary soul robbers, and
that's the chinese way. hindus are now planning to appoint their own
catholic bishop just like the chinese, and then the hindus will apooint
their own pope.
this is all confidential.
"Maynard Man" <mighty@hammers.co.uk> wrote in message
news:hLudnXJRWMAVIj_ZRVny2g@bt.com...
> Hiharmony,
>
> I don't know if you know, but you are posting this in a freeware site. I
> don't know why Jay Stevens (calls himself Dr Jai) is lacking so much in
> life that he has to start a thread here, but no one here is really
> interested in religion. They are interested in freeware.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h4zog.284775$5Z.127506@dukeread02...
>> nazism was defeated in its tracks, kirastanism wasn't. imagine an
>> institute of nazism, a la vatican, which does charity work, running
>> schools and hospitals - like missionaries do these days.
>>
>>
>> <usenet@mantra.com31fj7woj2 or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)>
>> wrote in message news:20060614U3hU8u5MD31fj7woj2Mo5ec@RX51k...
>>> Amazing: even the ChiComs have at least one better trait than the Nazi
>>> pope.
>>>
>>> Jai Maharaj
>>> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>>> http://www.mantra.com/jai
>>> Om Shanti
>>>
>>> In article <3vYjg.231978$5Z.37055@dukeread02>,
>>> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>>>> nazism is a terrible crime. the vatican pope has not apologized to the
>>>> jews.
>>>> the chinese pope will love the jewish people.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:1150305199.748332.37590@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >
>>>> > harmony wrote:
>>>> >> in usa many 14 yrs, guilty of terrible crimes, are tried as adults
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> courts.
>>>> >> some suicide bombers have been 14.
>>>> >
>>>> > And *that* proves that the pope is a Nazi? You're not making a very
>>>> > convincing argument.
>>>> >
>>>> >> <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:1150241863.833608.9240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>>>> >> > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>>>> >> >> The current pope *is* a Nazi -- didn't your read about his
>>>> >> >> background?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Didn't you? He was a 14 year old German kid in 1941 when he was
>>>> >> > required by law to join the Hitler Youth. His family was strongly
>>>> >> > anti-Nazi. His cousin was murdered by the Nazis. He was a German
>>>> >> > teenager conscripted into the German army but the claim that he
>>>> >> > was a
>>>> >> > Nazi doesn't hold up.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> Jai Maharaj
>>>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>>>> >> >> http://www.mantra.com/jai
>>>> >> >> Om Shanti
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> In article
>>>> >> >> <1150234663.182062.307630@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> >> >> bmoore@nyx.net posted:
>>>> >> >> > The Vatican has many problems, but people who use terms like
>>>> >> >> > "Nazi
>>>> >> >> > Pope" aren't interested in rational discussion; they try to
>>>> >> >> > "win"
>>>> >> >> > arguments using sensationalism and deceit. The current pope is
>>>> >> >> > not
>>>> >> >> > at
>>>> >> >> > all a Nazi, but that doesn't stop those who don't care much
>>>> >> >> > about
>>>> >> >> > honest debate.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > harmony wrote:
>>>> >> >> > > he will be the one with the long chopestick, with smoke
>>>> >> >> > > rising
>>>> >> >> > > from a
>>>> >> >> > > dragon's mouth walking close behind him.
>>>> >> >> > > commie pope is likely to prevail over nazi pope eventually.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> > > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>>>> >> >> > >
>>>> >> >> > > >A ChiCom Vatican -- that'll be something else. What would
>>>> >> >> > > > the call their pope, the Chore, I mean Chope?
>>>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >> > > > Jai Maharaj
>>>> >> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>>>> >> >> > > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
>>>> >> >> > > > Om Shanti
>>>> >> >> > > >
>>>> >> >> > > > In article <u5ljg.221495$5Z.73957@dukeread02>,
>>>> >> >> > > > "are we on same page?" <sayhello@hotmail.com> posted:
>>>> >> >> > > >> china needs a little more time. china will open up as soon
>>>> >> >> > > >> as
>>>> >> >> > > >> they
>>>> >> >> > > >> get
>>>> >> >> > > >> they
>>>> >> >> > > >> set up their shadow vatican and pope, so that all
>>>> >> >> > > >> kirastani
>>>> >> >> > > >> money
>>>> >> >> > > >> will
>>>> >> >> > > >> start
>>>> >> >> > > >> rolling into china.
>>>> >> >> > > >>
>>>> >> >> > > >>
>>>> >> >> > > >> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>>>> >> >> > > >>
>>>> >> >> > > >> > China Tightens Web Controls to Knock Out Proxies, Google
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > By Fang Yuan
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Radio Free Asia
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Thursday, June 8, 2006
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Hong Kong - China has tightened its already firm grip on
>>>> >> >> > > >> > the Internet, with a slew of new controls that make
>>>> >> >> > > >> > access to the Internet outside China harder than ever,
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Web users said Wednesday.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Chengdu-based Web site operator Deng Yongliang said
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Google's international search engine, which the company
>>>> >> >> > > >> > left filter-free after agreeing with Beijing to allow
>>>> >> >> > > >> > censorship of its google.cn version, was now almost
>>>> >> >> > > >> > unusable.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "It's been very difficult to get anything in recent
>>>> >> >> > > >> > weeks, around the anniversary of June 4," Deng told
>>>> >> >> > > >> > RFA's
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Mandarin service.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "Really I haven't managed to get anything at all. It's
>>>> >> >> > > >> > also been very hard to use any of the censorship-busting
>>>> >> >> > > >> > software like Dynapass and Freegate. Because the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > government has really been putting a lot of effort into
>>>> >> >> > > >> > cracking them," he said.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "So we can't get onto international Google, and we can't
>>>> >> >> > > >> > use this software any more."
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Deng also complained that many e-mails to friends were
>>>> >> >> > > >> > no
>>>> >> >> > > >> > longer getting through, without specifying where the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > friends were in the world.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > In the past, if I couldn't get into international
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Google,
>>>> >> >> > > >> > I'd just use a proxy server. Now you can't even get in
>>>> >> >> > > >> > with a proxy. I heard that access to proxy servers had
>>>> >> >> > > >> > been very effectively blocked now,
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Li Xinde, citizen journalist and editor of Yulun Jiandu,
>>>> >> >> > > >> > a Web site known for exposing official corruption Deng's
>>>> >> >> > > >> > account tallied with that of other Internet users within
>>>> >> >> > > >> > China.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Li Xinde, a citizen journalist whose Yulun Jiandu Web
>>>> >> >> > > >> > site is known for exposing official corruption, said the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > government was even managing to block the use of proxy
>>>> >> >> > > >> > servers, previously a handy loophole in the Great
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Firewall that surrounds China's Internet users.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Press watchdog complains "In the past, if I couldn't get
>>>> >> >> > > >> > into international Google, I'd just use a proxy server.
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Now you can't even get in with a proxy. I heard that
>>>> >> >> > > >> > access to proxy servers had been very effectively
>>>> >> >> > > >> > blocked
>>>> >> >> > > >> > now," Li told RFA reporter Fang Yuan.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > The Paris-based press freedom group, Reporters Without
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Borders (RSF) said Tuesday that Internet users in many
>>>> >> >> > > >> > major Chinese cities had had difficulty in connecting to
>>>> >> >> > > >> > the uncensored international version of Google for the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > past week.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > RSF linked the new and unprecedented levels of
>>>> >> >> > > >> > censorship
>>>> >> >> > > >> > to the 17th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square
>>>> >> >> > > >> > crackdown
>>>> >> >> > > >> > on June 4, which is already a banned keyword for
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Beijing's system of filters.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > It said the uncensored version of the search engine was
>>>> >> >> > > >> > totally inaccessible throughout the country on 31 May.
>>>> >> >> > > >> > The blocking then gradually extended to Google News and
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Google Mail. "So the Chinese public is now reduced to
>>>> >> >> > > >> > using the censored Chinese versions of these services,"
>>>> >> >> > > >> > it said.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "It was only to be expected that Google.com would be
>>>> >> >> > > >> > gradually sidelined after the censored version was
>>>> >> >> > > >> > launched in January," RSF said.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "Google has just definitively joined the club of Western
>>>> >> >> > > >> > companies that comply with online censorship in China.
>>>> >> >> > > >> > It
>>>> >> >> > > >> > is deplorable that Chinese Internet users are forced to
>>>> >> >> > > >> > wage a technological war against censorship in order to
>>>> >> >> > > >> > access banned content."
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > It said Beijing's formidable Web police had also largely
>>>> >> >> > > >> > managed to neutralize software designed to sidestep
>>>> >> >> > > >> > censorship since 24 May.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Such software as Dynapass, Ultrasurf, Freegate, and
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Garden Networks is normally used by about 100,000 people
>>>> >> >> > > >> > in China to gain access to news and information that is
>>>> >> >> > > >> > blocked by the firewall isolating China from the rest of
>>>> >> >> > > >> > the World Wide Web, the group said.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > But Li said he didn't believe the new levels of
>>>> >> >> > > >> > filtering
>>>> >> >> > > >> > and censorship were directly connected to the June 4
>>>> >> >> > > >> > anniversary.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "Yes, it's a sensitive time," he said. "But I don't
>>>> >> >> > > >> > think
>>>> >> >> > > >> > it's really connected to this. This has been going on
>>>> >> >> > > >> > for
>>>> >> >> > > >> > a long time now. As soon as the authorities succeed in
>>>> >> >> > > >> > blocking us, the anti-censorship software upgrades to a
>>>> >> >> > > >> > better version to get around them. And then the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > government manages to block it again, and it upgrades
>>>> >> >> > > >> > again."
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Municipal authorities in the capital Beijing have also
>>>> >> >> > > >> > revoked the licenses of six Web sites and temporarily
>>>> >> >> > > >> > shut down 12 Internet service providers for
>>>> >> >> > > >> > "rectification" during a 90-day city-wide crackdown.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > More than 858,000 yuan (U.S.$107,000) in fines were
>>>> >> >> > > >> > collected from 35 Web sites and Internet service
>>>> >> >> > > >> > providers who allegedly violated Beijing regulations.
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Thirty unlicensed Internet cafes were also shut down and
>>>> >> >> > > >> > 446 computers confiscated.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Software engineers based abroad have been trying to
>>>> >> >> > > >> > update the censorship-busting programs on the basis of
>>>> >> >> > > >> > information they have received from Internet users
>>>> >> >> > > >> > inside
>>>> >> >> > > >> > China.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > A new version of Dynapass was released a few days ago,
>>>> >> >> > > >> > but its effectiveness is still extremely limited, RSF
>>>> >> >> > > >> > said.
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.rfa.org/english/news/2006/06/08/china_webcontrols/
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > - - - - - - -
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Imagine living in a police state where visiting the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > wrong
>>>> >> >> > > >> > website can disappear you in the middle of the night.
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Where the State even tells you how you can breathe, not
>>>> >> >> > > >> > to mention where. Imagine the People's Republic where
>>>> >> >> > > >> > the
>>>> >> >> > > >> > People live in constant Fear. The People's Republic of
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Fear
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Posted on 6/10/2006 by at bay
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > -To: at bay
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > And now for the tagline....
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Posted on 6/10/2006 by at bay ("We actually did an
>>>> >> >> > > >> > evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>>>> >> >> > > >> > End of forwarded messages
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Jai Maharaj
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Om Shanti
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.hindu.org
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.hindunet.org
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
>>>> >> >> > > >> > The truth about Islam and Muslims
>>>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
>>>> >> >> > > >> >
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