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Re: CHINA TIGHTENS WEB CONTROLS TO KNOCK OUT PROXIES, GOOGLE
de harmony 06/28/2006 07:27
nazism was defeated in its tracks, kirastanism wasn't. imagine an institute
of nazism, a la vatican, which does charity work, running schools and
hospitals - like missionaries do these days.
<usenet@mantra.com31fj7woj2 or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)> wrote
in message news:20060614U3hU8u5MD31fj7woj2Mo5ec@RX51k...
> Amazing: even the ChiComs have at least one better trait than the Nazi
> pope.
>
> Jai Maharaj
> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti
>
> In article <3vYjg.231978$5Z.37055@dukeread02>,
> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
>> nazism is a terrible crime. the vatican pope has not apologized to the
>> jews.
>> the chinese pope will love the jewish people.
>>
>>
>> <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote in message
>> news:1150305199.748332.37590@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > harmony wrote:
>> >> in usa many 14 yrs, guilty of terrible crimes, are tried as adults in
>> >> courts.
>> >> some suicide bombers have been 14.
>> >
>> > And *that* proves that the pope is a Nazi? You're not making a very
>> > convincing argument.
>> >
>> >> <bmoore@nyx.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:1150241863.833608.9240@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>> >> > Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
>> >> >> The current pope *is* a Nazi -- didn't your read about his
>> >> >> background?
>> >> >
>> >> > Didn't you? He was a 14 year old German kid in 1941 when he was
>> >> > required by law to join the Hitler Youth. His family was strongly
>> >> > anti-Nazi. His cousin was murdered by the Nazis. He was a German
>> >> > teenager conscripted into the German army but the claim that he was
>> >> > a
>> >> > Nazi doesn't hold up.
>> >> >
>> >> >> Jai Maharaj
>> >> >> http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>> >> >> http://www.mantra.com/jai
>> >> >> Om Shanti
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In article <1150234663.182062.307630@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> >> bmoore@nyx.net posted:
>> >> >> > The Vatican has many problems, but people who use terms like
>> >> >> > "Nazi
>> >> >> > Pope" aren't interested in rational discussion; they try to "win"
>> >> >> > arguments using sensationalism and deceit. The current pope is
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > at
>> >> >> > all a Nazi, but that doesn't stop those who don't care much about
>> >> >> > honest debate.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > harmony wrote:
>> >> >> > > he will be the one with the long chopestick, with smoke rising
>> >> >> > > from a
>> >> >> > > dragon's mouth walking close behind him.
>> >> >> > > commie pope is likely to prevail over nazi pope eventually.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > >A ChiCom Vatican -- that'll be something else. What would
>> >> >> > > > the call their pope, the Chore, I mean Chope?
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > Jai Maharaj
>> >> >> > > > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>> >> >> > > > http://www.mantra.com/jai
>> >> >> > > > Om Shanti
>> >> >> > > >
>> >> >> > > > In article <u5ljg.221495$5Z.73957@dukeread02>,
>> >> >> > > > "are we on same page?" <sayhello@hotmail.com> posted:
>> >> >> > > >> china needs a little more time. china will open up as soon
>> >> >> > > >> as
>> >> >> > > >> they
>> >> >> > > >> get
>> >> >> > > >> they
>> >> >> > > >> set up their shadow vatican and pope, so that all kirastani
>> >> >> > > >> money
>> >> >> > > >> will
>> >> >> > > >> start
>> >> >> > > >> rolling into china.
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj) posted:
>> >> >> > > >>
>> >> >> > > >> > China Tightens Web Controls to Knock Out Proxies, Google
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > By Fang Yuan
>> >> >> > > >> > Radio Free Asia
>> >> >> > > >> > Thursday, June 8, 2006
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Hong Kong - China has tightened its already firm grip on
>> >> >> > > >> > the Internet, with a slew of new controls that make
>> >> >> > > >> > access to the Internet outside China harder than ever,
>> >> >> > > >> > Web users said Wednesday.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Chengdu-based Web site operator Deng Yongliang said
>> >> >> > > >> > Google's international search engine, which the company
>> >> >> > > >> > left filter-free after agreeing with Beijing to allow
>> >> >> > > >> > censorship of its google.cn version, was now almost
>> >> >> > > >> > unusable.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > "It's been very difficult to get anything in recent
>> >> >> > > >> > weeks, around the anniversary of June 4," Deng told RFA's
>> >> >> > > >> > Mandarin service.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > "Really I haven't managed to get anything at all. It's
>> >> >> > > >> > also been very hard to use any of the censorship-busting
>> >> >> > > >> > software like Dynapass and Freegate. Because the
>> >> >> > > >> > government has really been putting a lot of effort into
>> >> >> > > >> > cracking them," he said.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > "So we can't get onto international Google, and we can't
>> >> >> > > >> > use this software any more."
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Deng also complained that many e-mails to friends were no
>> >> >> > > >> > longer getting through, without specifying where the
>> >> >> > > >> > friends were in the world.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > In the past, if I couldn't get into international Google,
>> >> >> > > >> > I'd just use a proxy server. Now you can't even get in
>> >> >> > > >> > with a proxy. I heard that access to proxy servers had
>> >> >> > > >> > been very effectively blocked now,
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Li Xinde, citizen journalist and editor of Yulun Jiandu,
>> >> >> > > >> > a Web site known for exposing official corruption Deng's
>> >> >> > > >> > account tallied with that of other Internet users within
>> >> >> > > >> > China.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Li Xinde, a citizen journalist whose Yulun Jiandu Web
>> >> >> > > >> > site is known for exposing official corruption, said the
>> >> >> > > >> > government was even managing to block the use of proxy
>> >> >> > > >> > servers, previously a handy loophole in the Great
>> >> >> > > >> > Firewall that surrounds China's Internet users.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Press watchdog complains "In the past, if I couldn't get
>> >> >> > > >> > into international Google, I'd just use a proxy server.
>> >> >> > > >> > Now you can't even get in with a proxy. I heard that
>> >> >> > > >> > access to proxy servers had been very effectively blocked
>> >> >> > > >> > now," Li told RFA reporter Fang Yuan.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > The Paris-based press freedom group, Reporters Without
>> >> >> > > >> > Borders (RSF) said Tuesday that Internet users in many
>> >> >> > > >> > major Chinese cities had had difficulty in connecting to
>> >> >> > > >> > the uncensored international version of Google for the
>> >> >> > > >> > past week.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > RSF linked the new and unprecedented levels of censorship
>> >> >> > > >> > to the 17th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square crackdown
>> >> >> > > >> > on June 4, which is already a banned keyword for
>> >> >> > > >> > Beijing's system of filters.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > It said the uncensored version of the search engine was
>> >> >> > > >> > totally inaccessible throughout the country on 31 May.
>> >> >> > > >> > The blocking then gradually extended to Google News and
>> >> >> > > >> > Google Mail. "So the Chinese public is now reduced to
>> >> >> > > >> > using the censored Chinese versions of these services,"
>> >> >> > > >> > it said.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > "It was only to be expected that Google.com would be
>> >> >> > > >> > gradually sidelined after the censored version was
>> >> >> > > >> > launched in January," RSF said.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > "Google has just definitively joined the club of Western
>> >> >> > > >> > companies that comply with online censorship in China. It
>> >> >> > > >> > is deplorable that Chinese Internet users are forced to
>> >> >> > > >> > wage a technological war against censorship in order to
>> >> >> > > >> > access banned content."
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > It said Beijing's formidable Web police had also largely
>> >> >> > > >> > managed to neutralize software designed to sidestep
>> >> >> > > >> > censorship since 24 May.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Such software as Dynapass, Ultrasurf, Freegate, and
>> >> >> > > >> > Garden Networks is normally used by about 100,000 people
>> >> >> > > >> > in China to gain access to news and information that is
>> >> >> > > >> > blocked by the firewall isolating China from the rest of
>> >> >> > > >> > the World Wide Web, the group said.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > But Li said he didn't believe the new levels of filtering
>> >> >> > > >> > and censorship were directly connected to the June 4
>> >> >> > > >> > anniversary.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > "Yes, it's a sensitive time," he said. "But I don't think
>> >> >> > > >> > it's really connected to this. This has been going on for
>> >> >> > > >> > a long time now. As soon as the authorities succeed in
>> >> >> > > >> > blocking us, the anti-censorship software upgrades to a
>> >> >> > > >> > better version to get around them. And then the
>> >> >> > > >> > government manages to block it again, and it upgrades
>> >> >> > > >> > again."
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Municipal authorities in the capital Beijing have also
>> >> >> > > >> > revoked the licenses of six Web sites and temporarily
>> >> >> > > >> > shut down 12 Internet service providers for
>> >> >> > > >> > "rectification" during a 90-day city-wide crackdown.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > More than 858,000 yuan (U.S.$107,000) in fines were
>> >> >> > > >> > collected from 35 Web sites and Internet service
>> >> >> > > >> > providers who allegedly violated Beijing regulations.
>> >> >> > > >> > Thirty unlicensed Internet cafes were also shut down and
>> >> >> > > >> > 446 computers confiscated.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Software engineers based abroad have been trying to
>> >> >> > > >> > update the censorship-busting programs on the basis of
>> >> >> > > >> > information they have received from Internet users inside
>> >> >> > > >> > China.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > A new version of Dynapass was released a few days ago,
>> >> >> > > >> > but its effectiveness is still extremely limited, RSF
>> >> >> > > >> > said.
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.rfa.org/english/news/2006/06/08/china_webcontrols/
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > - - - - - - -
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Imagine living in a police state where visiting the wrong
>> >> >> > > >> > website can disappear you in the middle of the night.
>> >> >> > > >> > Where the State even tells you how you can breathe, not
>> >> >> > > >> > to mention where. Imagine the People's Republic where the
>> >> >> > > >> > People live in constant Fear. The People's Republic of
>> >> >> > > >> > Fear
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Posted on 6/10/2006 by at bay
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > -To: at bay
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > And now for the tagline....
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Posted on 6/10/2006 by at bay ("We actually did an
>> >> >> > > >> > evil....." Eric Scmidt, CEO Google)
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> >> >> > > >> > End of forwarded messages
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Jai Maharaj
>> >> >> > > >> > http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc
>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.mantra.com/jai
>> >> >> > > >> > Om Shanti
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Hindu Holocaust Museum
>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
>> >> >> > > >> >
>> >> >> > > >> > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
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>> >> >> > > >> > http://www.hindunet.org
>> >> >> > > >> >
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